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AgePosted: 2019-Apr-01 5:54 am 

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Niv-Mizzet Reborn
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When Niv-Mizzet Reborn enters the battlefield, reveal the top ten cards of your library. For each color pair, choose a card that's exactly those colors from among them. Put the chosen cards into your hand and the rest on the bottom of your library in a random order.

You'll probably want things like Cloudstone Curio to get best use of him.

Meanwhile, does this mean that he's going to be the new Living Guildpact, after all? Or will he set his sights higher, and seek to take the Ur-Dragon's place?


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AgePosted: 2019-Apr-01 8:48 am 
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An article has come up with Teyo and his signature as well.

https://www.player.one/mtg-planeswalker-reveal-teyo-verada-joins-war-spark-125075

Teyo, the Shieldmage
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You have Hexproof.
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Teyo's Lightshield
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When Teyo's Lightshield enters the battlefield, put a +1/+1 counter on target creature you control.


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AgePosted: 2019-Apr-01 9:58 am 
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I'm not super excited about the uncommon walkers. Maybe they'll be better than they look, at least for limited, but having no + ability is a bit of a downer, even if the static ability is nice.

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Sid the Chicken wrote:
I'm not super excited about the uncommon walkers. Maybe they'll be better than they look, at least for limited, but having no + ability is a bit of a downer, even if the static ability is nice.


Well, if proliferate is back, that may be why WotC felt they could get away without plus abilities for the template.

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Treamayne wrote:
Sid the Chicken wrote:
I'm not super excited about the uncommon walkers. Maybe they'll be better than they look, at least for limited, but having no + ability is a bit of a downer, even if the static ability is nice.


Well, if proliferate is back, that may be why WotC felt they could get away without plus abilities for the template.


Straight from the relevant article: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/making-magic/waging-war-spark-part-1-2019-04-01

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For our first uncommon planeswalkers, we limited them to just one ability. Some had a plus ability, meaning they got harder to kill each time they used their ability. Others got a minus ability, meaning that, barring outside help, you could only use their abilities a certain number of times. The final group got a static or triggered ability. For them, the loyalty was just a track of how much damage it took for your opponent to get rid of them.

The single plus abilities didn't play all that well. It required you to keep track of the loyalty, but it often didn't matter. Unless the opponent was attacking the planeswalker, the counter tracking was irrelevant, and once you had enough counters that attacking it was fruitless, players stopped even tracking the counters.

Negative loyalty abilities, in contrast, were very interesting. They basically functioned like a restriction on the number of uses you had available, something the opponent could mess with by attacking the planeswalker. (Next week, I'll get into the major thing we added to increase planeswalker loyalty—the return of proliferate.)

The static/triggered ability planeswalkers fell kind of in the middle. They didn't require much irrelevant tracking. Either your opponent was attacking the planeswalker and its loyalty mattered, or they weren't and there was nothing to track. The biggest problem with them was they didn't feel as planeswalker-y as the other versions. The lack of a loyalty ability made them feel like they had less agency. They played well though, essentially enchantments with a vulnerability to creatures.

After the playtest, we got rid of the single-plus-ability planeswalkers and played with the negative-loyalty planeswalkers and the static/triggered-ability ones. For rares, we tried them with having a static or triggered ability and two loyalty abilities, usually one positive and one negative. Mythic rares had a static or triggered ability and three abilities. This was the general approach we took when we handed off the file. Set Design got enough feedback that the single-ability planeswalkers felt a little underwhelming for planeswalkers, so they made the choice to have each of them have one static/triggered ability and one negative-loyalty ability.

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Sid the Chicken wrote:
I'm not super excited about the uncommon walkers. Maybe they'll be better than they look, at least for limited, but having no + ability is a bit of a downer, even if the static ability is nice.

I think they are a great example of anti-power-creep. They are like enchantments that every color can destroy. I agree it's hard to get hyped for them, but I'm glad they have been printed.


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OK, THIS is just FREAKING hilarious! :lol: :facepalm:

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I've been out of the loop story-wise for a long time. What's the deal with this PW who has no PW subtype?


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I have always liked walkers without + abilities and/or without ultimates.

Much harder to evaluate their strength both during deckbuilding and on the table. And much less annoying to have a lot of on the battlefield.

In my experience once there's a few PWs on the table a lot of the same questions get repeated - "so what's the ultimate do again?" "how much does it tick up?" "how much loyalty to ultimate?"

These won't be as bad for that.

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intreped wrote:
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I've been out of the loop story-wise for a long time. What's the deal with this PW who has no PW subtype?

I've seen a little speculation that this is Elspeth back from the dead, so to speak.

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Segrus wrote:
intreped wrote:
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I've been out of the loop story-wise for a long time. What's the deal with this PW who has no PW subtype?

I've seen a little speculation that this is Elspeth back from the dead, so to speak.


I kinda doubt it, what was spoiled was "Able to down the largest foes with a single stroke, The Wanderer is also cursed to make an effort not to planeswalk. Unlike other planeswalkers who are tired by the process of planeswalking, The Wanderer can planeswalk and then planeswalk again almost immediately - but only because if she doesn't focus she will be pulled at random from plane to plane."

That doesn't sound like Elspeth at all. Well, I guess they are both strong fighters.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-enR1baRws

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I like the Kaya a LOT

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Inkeyes22 wrote:
I kinda doubt it, what was spoiled was "Able to down the largest foes with a single stroke, The Wanderer is also cursed to make an effort not to planeswalk. Unlike other planeswalkers who are tired by the process of planeswalking, The Wanderer can planeswalk and then planeswalk again almost immediately - but only because if she doesn't focus she will be pulled at random from plane to plane."

That doesn't sound like Elspeth at all. Well, I guess they are both strong fighters.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-enR1baRws

Oh, I'm no expert. The color is correct and the whole warrior thing is a connection, and I don't think we know what happened to Elspeth yet...but I honestly don't know. I'm not entirely sure what the Underworld of Theros would do to a planeswalker.

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I'm unreasonably excited by Bolas' Citadel, Fblthp and Vivien and her Arkbow, and the new Nissa (last three for my 1 v1 build). Still hoping for some decent discard enablers for my new Xantcha deck, maybe Neheb will help with that.

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