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 Post subject: Sweet Kaalia
AgePosted: 2013-Apr-09 3:19 pm 

Joined: 2013-Apr-09 10:39 am
Age: Hatchling
This version is primarily for 1 on 1 with french rules.
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Ancestral Recall
Ancient Tomb
Balance
Back to Basics
Bitterblossom
Black Lotus
Channel
Crucible of Worlds
Gifts Ungiven
Grindstone
Hermit Druid
Imperial Seal
Karakas
Library of Alexandria
Mana Crypt
Mana Drain
Mana Vault
Mind Twist
Mishra’s Workshop
Mox Emerald
Mox Jet
Mox Pearl
Mox Ruby
Mox Sapphire
Necropotence
Protean Hulk
Sensei’s Divining Top
Serra Ascendant
Shahrazad
Sol Ring
Staff of Domination
Strip Mine
The Tabernacle at the Pendrell Vale
Time Vault
Time Walk
Tinker
Tolarian Academy
Vampiric Tutor
Yawgmoth’s Bargain

Decks without blue (counterspell magic) have problems with my aggressive style. Kaalia wins a lot but unfortunately she has no potencial for competitive playing against commanders like Augustin, Zur atc. Maybe... Anyway I like (love) her and want improve as it is possible. Most problematic games I have against Grand Arbiter Augustin IV, for me the best competitive commander. Lots of removals - Path to Exile,Swords to Plowshares,Austere Command - and of course counterspells - Force of Will,Cryptic Command,Spell Crumple... - plus bitches like Glen Elendra Archmage,Vendilion Clique and Jace, the Mind Sculptor. This deck locks me very quickly. I wish to be more defenses against counter magic. Cavern of Souls is in EDH environment nothing. Any ideas?

Winning strategy for my Kaalia's deck is land destruction. So Plan A is Kaalia IN then destroy all lands (Armageddon,Cataclysm,Desolation Angel). Its powerfull. Plan B - Griselbrand or Iona, Shield of Emeria. Kaalia is based mainly on all-in play.

My rating (1-5): 1-bad, 2-poor, 3-average, 4-good, 5-great

Situational aspect: x-bad, o-good, 1st-starting hand, 2nd-draw in turn five, 3rd-draw in late game (turn 10)

Kaalia in detail:
Multiplayer casual: 5/5
Multiplayer competitive: 3/5
1 on 1 casual: 4.5/5
1 on 1 competitive: 2.5/5
Score: 3.75/5

Commander:
Kaalia of the Vast

Land (38):
Cavern of Souls 4.5/5 [o,o,o]
Hall of the Bandit Lord 4.5/5 [o,o,o]
Vault of the Archangel 4.0/5 [x,o,o]
Slayers' Stronghold 3.5/5 [x,o,o]
City of Brass 3.5/5 [o,o,o]
Blood Crypt
Godless Shrine
Sacred Foundry

Creature (24):
Desolation Angel 4.5/5 [x,o,o]
Iona, Shield of Emeria 4.5/5 [x,o,o]
Aurelia, the Warleader 4.5/5 [x,o,o]
Avacyn, Angel of Hope 4.5/5 [x,o,o]
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight 4.5/5 [x,o,o]
Twilight Shepherd 3.5/5 [x,o,o]
Baneslayer Angel 3.5/5 [x,o,o]
Angel of Despair 3.5/5 [x,o,o]
Blinding Angel 2.5/5 [x,o,o]
Griselbrand 5.0/5 [o,o,o]
Rune-Scarred Demon 4.5/5 [x,o,o]
Rakdos the Defiler 4.0/5 [x,o,o]
Master of Cruelties 4.0/5 [x,o,o]
Bloodgift Demon 3.5/5 [x,o,o]
Rakdos, Lord of Riots 2.5/5 [x,o,o]
Balefire Dragon 4.0/5 [x,o,o]
Thundermaw Hellkite 3.5/5 [x,o,o]
Hellkite Tyrant 3.5/5 [x,o,o]
Stoneforge Mystic 3.5/5 [o,o,o]
Sheoldred, Whispering One 3.0/5 [x,o,o]
Mother of Runes 2.5/5 [o,o,o]
Grand Abolisher 2.5/5 [o,o,o]
Hypnotic Specter 2.5/5 [o,o,o]
Olivia Voldaren 2.5/5 [x,o,o]

Sorcery (11):
Duress 4.0/5 [o,o,o]
Castigate 4.0/5 [o,o,o]
Inquisition of Kozilek 3.0/5 [o,o,x]
Armageddon 5.0/5 [x,o,o]
Cataclysm 4.5/5 [x,o,o]
Austere Command 4.5/5 [x,o,o]
Day of Judgment 3.0/5 [o,o,o]
Demonic Tutor 5.0/5 [o,o,o]
Diabolic Tutor 3.0/5 [x,o,o]
Rakdos's Return 3.5/5 [x,o,o]
Unburial Rites 2.5/5 [x,o,o]

Instant (7):
Path to Exile 4.0/5 [o,o,o]
Swords to Plowshares 4.0/5 [o,o,o]
Doom Blade 2.5/5 [o,o,o]
Dismember 2.5/5 [o,o,o]
Boros Charm 4.5/5 [x,o,o]
Aurelia's Fury 3.5/5 [x,o,o]
Enlightened Tutor 3.5/5 [o,o,o]

Enchantment (5):
Phyrexian Arena 4.0/5 [o,o,o]
Underworld Connections 3.0/5 [o,o,o]
Oblivion Ring 4.0/5 [x,o,o]
Nevermore 3.0/5 [o,o,o]
Fervor 2.5/5 [o,o,o]

Artifact (8):
Lightning Greaves 5.0/5 [o,o,o]
Swiftfoot Boots 3.5/5 [o,o,o]
Expedition Map 3.5/5 [o,x,x]
Rakdos Signet 3.0/5 [o,x,x]
Orzhov Signet 3.0/5 [o,x,x]
Boros Signet 3.0/5 [o,x,x]
Pithing Needle 3.0/5 [o,o,o]
Mimic Vat 2.5/5 [x,o,o]

Planeswalker (1):
Liliana Vess 2.5/5 [x,o,o]


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Sideboard / Wish list

Cards I have:
Winter Orb 4.0/5 [x,o,o]
Earthquake 3.0/5 [o,o,o]
Heartless Summoning 3.0/5 [o,x,x]
Thespian's Stage 3.0/5 [x,o,o]
Quicksilver Amulet 3.0/5 [x,o,o]
Tidehollow Sculler 3.0/5 [o,o,o]
Mesmeric Fiend 3.0/5 [o,o,o]
Distress 3.0/5 [o,o,o]
Shimian Specter 3.0/5 [o,o,o]
Skeletal Scrying 3.0/5 [x,o,o]
AEther Vial 2.5/5 [o,x,x]
Whispersilk Cloak 2.5/5 [o,o,o]
Mortify 2.5/5 [x,o,o]
Increasing Ambition 2.5/5 [x,o,o]
Sorin Markov 2.5/5 [x,o,o]
Arrest 2.5/5 [o,o,o]
Ambition's Cost 2.5/5 [o,o,o]
Promise of Power 2.5/5 [x,o,o]
Akroma, Angel of Fury 2.0/5 [x,o,o] I have few red cards so akroma could be fine.
Scourge of Kher Ridges 2.0/5 [x,o,o]
Return to Dust 2.0/5 [x,o,o]
Ryusei, the Falling Star 2.0/5 [x,o,o]
Chromatic Lantern 2.0/5 [o,x,x]
Reya Dawnbringer 2.0/5 [x,o,o]
Figure of Destiny 2.0/5 [o,o,o]
Necrotic Sliver 2.0/5 [o,o,o]
Defense Grid 2.0/5 [o,x,x]
Nezumi Graverobber 2.0/5 [o,o,o]
Ob Nixilis, the Fallen 2.0/5 [x,o,o]
Kuro, Pitlord 2.0/5 [x,o,o]
Reiterate 1.5/5 [x,o,o]
Dragonmaster Outcast 1.5/5 [x,o,o]
Dwarven Miner 1.0/5 [o,x,x]
Mind Twist [o,o,o] banned

Cards I have NOT:
Thoughtseize WANT
Reanimate WANT
Cauldron Haze WANT
Chaos Warp WANT
Debtor's Knell WANT
True Conviction WANT
Waves of Aggression WANT
Homeward Path WANT
Catastrophe
Reanimate
Animate Dead
Vindicate
Moat
Sneak Attack
Maze of Ith
Angel of Serenity
Linvala, Keeper of Silence
Tower of the Magistrate
Phyrexian Reclamation
Strip Mine


Deck stats:
http://deckstats.net/deck-2180539-a3564d09567d9c78718b2c72289a6d1f.html


Links:
http://mtgjunkie.com/blog/
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 Post subject: Re: Sweet Kaalia
AgePosted: 2013-Apr-09 9:19 pm 

Joined: 2008-Aug-04 9:41 am
Age: Dragon
If your trouble is with blue, add more discard:

Mind Twist
Hymn to Tourach
Persecute


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 Post subject: Re: Sweet Kaalia
AgePosted: 2013-Apr-10 2:44 am 

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Mind Twist is unfortunately banned in french. Great card anyway.
Hymn to Tourach seems good but almost every time it is two cards from seven.
Persecute is four drop (Kaalia) but effect is awesome. This card is must have for testing. THX for tip.

I was testing Shimian Specter and for me it's better then Olivia Voldaren for example. Everybody recommended me to not play Shimian so I don't know. Discarding cards is decent but viewing oponent's hand is best for my purpose.


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 Post subject: Re: Sweet Kaalia
AgePosted: 2013-Apr-10 9:21 am 

Joined: 2011-Jun-04 2:20 pm
Age: Dragon
Why the heck is Bitterblossom banned? That seems silly.


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 Post subject: Re: Sweet Kaalia
AgePosted: 2013-Apr-10 9:44 am 

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Miky9 wrote:
Mind Twist is unfortunately banned in french. Great card anyway.
Hymn to Tourach seems good but almost every time it is two cards from seven.
Persecute is four drop (Kaalia) but effect is awesome. This card is must have for testing. THX for tip.

I was testing Shimian Specter and for me it's better then Olivia Voldaren for example. Everybody recommended me to not play Shimian so I don't know. Discarding cards is decent but viewing oponent's hand is best for my purpose.


what about

mind shatter?


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 Post subject: Re: Sweet Kaalia
AgePosted: 2013-Apr-10 8:24 pm 

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Most specters are quite insane in a 1v1 environment.

Dark Ritual
Hypnotic Specter

Dark Ritual to overpower the opponent, turn 2 persecute? Hypnotic Specter because it's one of the coolest cards ever made.

If money isn't an issue (and else you just have to save up :P), Nether Void. Drop Kaalia, Drop Nether Void, done. Everything they do costs 3 more while you drop in big hitters for free. If money is an issue Defense Grid serves the same purpose against counterspells. It doesn't do much against sorcery speed stuff though.


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 Post subject: Re: Sweet Kaalia
AgePosted: 2013-Apr-11 7:06 am 

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Mind Shatter can replace Mind Twist with no problems but I expect situations when oponent has 7 cards, I cast it for 3-5 and it will be countered. Card for card. Nothing else. What then if Augustin is in play. I think more dangerous are cards like Duress, Castigate,Thoughtseize atc. Thoughtseize costs unfortunately $50 so still only wishlist. Distress is solid replacement.

Is Dark Ritual "combo" good for EDH? It's not likely that suitable cards will bring together on starting hand. Draw it in late game... But in Kaalia's deck it can be interesting Ramp. 4 lands - Dark Ritual - 6 mana - Kaalia+Lightning Greaves/Duress/Castigate. :P I feel synergy here.

Defense Grid is disappointment for me. It does almost nothing against blue and nothing against other colors. Yes when I cast Kaalia for the first time and oponent has only 4 mana and counters for two mana it has some effect. But it's much situational and what about spells like Path to Exile, Swords to Plowshares? Nether Void is the same case. Four mana drop for this deck is not ideal.


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 Post subject: Re: Sweet Kaalia
AgePosted: 2013-Apr-11 7:18 pm 

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I can't think of a deck that likes to operate under Nether Void. Key is to amass some board presence (Kaalia being the best) and then dropping the void. Even though the opponent can pay 4 to Swords to Plowshares it he -must- have it else he's gonna be buried in free demons/angels/dragons.
Worst case they do remove your Kaalia and you both have to operate under Nether Void, this means that both players will only be able to cast 1 spell or so per turn. So they cast something and pay for 3 extra, you go over the top with something more ugly (or Kaalia again). They won't be able to counter it.

It probably needs testing, but you asked for something to combat for example blue decks and there is nothing i would fear more than a Nether Void or Defense Grid if i have to rely on counterspells


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 Post subject: Re: Sweet Kaalia
AgePosted: 2013-Apr-16 8:15 am 

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It will mostly work against me that's my opinion. If I have Kaalia in game why I need this? Removals in EDH are generally cheap. If Kaalia will be targeted then 9 mana for next casting means big trouble for me. It doesn't solve problem with counterspells.
For lock/win game purpose I have cards like Armageddon, Cataclysm maybe Winter Orb. Nether Void more fits into this category but its effect isn't so fatal.

Maybe it's good card in some decks but in my Kaalia there is no room for this. Anyway thanks for your tip.

These days bothers me more quick starts of mono green decks. Omnath. Turn 3-5 Terastodon. I'm thinking about cards like Pacifism,Arrest,Vow of Malice and Maze of Ith. Destroying is useless.

Appetite for Brains should be good in EDH. It hits combo cards like Birthing Pod,Karn Liberated,Glen Elendra Archmage,Natural Order...


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 Post subject: Re: Sweet Kaalia
AgePosted: 2014-Nov-06 12:10 am 

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Desolation Angel 4.5/5 [x,o,o]
Stoneforge Mystic 3.5/5 [o,o,o]
Sheoldred, Whispering One 3.0/5 [x,o,o]
Olivia Voldaren 2.5/5 [x,o,o]

I'd cut all of the above, i think you're playing a good amount of dragons/Angels7Demons to profit from, don't see the need to play these, they don't seem great with or withpout kaalia in your deck. Stoneforge mystic, i think, is pretty much unneeded, I would try to further the plan of cheating ftties into play that don't need any equipment and removing opposing threats. I guess Swiftfoot Boots/Lightning Greaves are good enough to play this, but i don't think you need this.



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Rakdos's Return 3.5/5 [x,o,o]



Non-random discard at high mana-cost seems weak. Hymn is much better, I think.

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Enchantment (5):
Underworld Connections 3.0/5 [o,o,o]
Fervor 2.5/5 [o,o,o]

I think both are ultimately cuttable. I like the Underworld Connections only in decks where i can for example, untap lands or where I don't mind tapping the land every turn; I don't think this is the right deck for it.


Miky9 wrote:

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Sideboard / Wish list

Cards I have:
Winter Orb 4.0/5 [x,o,o]
Earthquake 3.0/5 [o,o,o]
Heartless Summoning 3.0/5 [o,x,x]
Thespian's Stage 3.0/5 [x,o,o]
Quicksilver Amulet 3.0/5 [x,o,o]
Tidehollow Sculler 3.0/5 [o,o,o]
Mesmeric Fiend 3.0/5 [o,o,o]
Distress 3.0/5 [o,o,o]
Shimian Specter 3.0/5 [o,o,o]
Skeletal Scrying 3.0/5 [x,o,o]
AEther Vial 2.5/5 [o,x,x]
Whispersilk Cloak 2.5/5 [o,o,o]
Mortify 2.5/5 [x,o,o]
Increasing Ambition 2.5/5 [x,o,o]
Sorin Markov 2.5/5 [x,o,o]
Arrest 2.5/5 [o,o,o]
Ambition's Cost 2.5/5 [o,o,o]
Promise of Power 2.5/5 [x,o,o]
Akroma, Angel of Fury 2.0/5 [x,o,o] I have few red cards so akroma could be fine.
Scourge of Kher Ridges 2.0/5 [x,o,o]
Return to Dust 2.0/5 [x,o,o]
Ryusei, the Falling Star 2.0/5 [x,o,o]
Chromatic Lantern 2.0/5 [o,x,x]
Reya Dawnbringer 2.0/5 [x,o,o]
Figure of Destiny 2.0/5 [o,o,o]
Necrotic Sliver 2.0/5 [o,o,o]
Defense Grid 2.0/5 [o,x,x]
Nezumi Graverobber 2.0/5 [o,o,o]
Ob Nixilis, the Fallen 2.0/5 [x,o,o]
Kuro, Pitlord 2.0/5 [x,o,o]
Reiterate 1.5/5 [x,o,o]
Dragonmaster Outcast 1.5/5 [x,o,o]
Dwarven Miner 1.0/5 [o,x,x]
Mind Twist [o,o,o] banned

Cards I have NOT:
Thoughtseize WANT
Reanimate WANT
Cauldron Haze WANT
Chaos Warp WANT
Debtor's Knell WANT
True Conviction WANT
Waves of Aggression WANT
Homeward Path WANT
Catastrophe
Reanimate
Animate Dead
Vindicate
Moat
Sneak Attack
Maze of Ith
Angel of Serenity
Linvala, Keeper of Silence
Tower of the Magistrate
Phyrexian Reclamation
Strip Mine



Strip Mine, Phyrexian Reclamation and Reanimate are great cards to get and uite cheap due to massive printings. Mortify is probably worth playing. Do you have Demonic/Vampiric tutor, they're great in this deck. Oh, and i recommend Hide/Seek as well asRed Elemental Blast / Pyroblast. Don't feel guilty for playing the latter two, those blue mages deserve it, and they can be incredibly good against them.

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