Chiky wrote:
Sid the Chicken wrote:
Chiky wrote:
Dumb question: Can I use proxy basic lands in my deck? Let's say the thickness of the cardboard is the same, can basic lands be proxied in commander? I read somewhere that as it's not a DCI sanctioned format you could proxy basic lands for normal tournaments, but i'm not sure if it's actually true...
I guess the first question I want to ask is why you would need/want to proxy basic lands - the cheapest cards out there.
Regardless, there is no official EDH rule that allows proxying of anything. As such, whether you can do this is subject to the whims of whomever you are playing with.
It'd be for custom art

I don't know how proxy works compared with alters for example, but alters are WAY more expensive
So first directly from the MTR:
"Artistic modifications are acceptable in sanctioned tournaments, provided that the modifications do not make the card art unrecognizable, contain substantial strategic advice, or contain offensive images. Artistic modifications also may not obstruct or change the mana cost or name of the card.
The Head Judge is the final authority on acceptable cards for a tournament."
http://www.wizards.com/contentresources/wizards/wpn/main/documents/magic_the_gathering_tournament_rules_pdf1.pdfIt cannot be Marked:
"Players are responsible for ensuring that their cards and/or card sleeves are not marked during the course of the tournament. A card or sleeve is considered marked if it bears something that makes it possible to identify the card without seeing its face, including scratches, discoloration, and bends.
If a player’s cards are sleeved, the cards must be examined while in the sleeves to determine if they are marked. Players should use care when sleeving their decks and should randomize their decks prior to sleeving them to reduce the possibility of cards becoming marked with a pattern. Players should also keep in mind that cards or sleeves may become worn and potentially marked through play during the course of a tournament.
The Head Judge has the authority to determine if a card in a player’s deck is marked. Judges may request that a player remove his or her current sleeves or replace any of the deck’s current sleeves immediately, or before the next round. "
So if you were to print out a card it would be considered illegal/proxy. If you were to print out a new face and glue it that would change the thickness and it would be a marked card.If you printed directly on an actual card that would likely not change the thickness but you are flirting with some illegalness as well. Now if you are not playing in a tournament/card shop and instead playing at a friends house that all that really matters is your friends opinions. If they don't care than do it, if they do then you have to either comply or convince.
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Shabbaman wrote:
The usual answer is "the social contract", but I guess that is not what you are looking for. Try house rules.