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For a format that's dead, there sure does seem to be a lot of talk about it.

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Proof that the format is dead! How else could you have such powerful necromancy?


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Actually, although I don't agree with his conclusions, I understand OP's frustration very well.

House rules, friendly chats with naughty deckbuilders and the very mature '' I'm not gonna play with you anymore'' attitude are all just fine in a somewhat fixed group where the social interaction is as important as the game itself. Give all that a try when you're in a local game store, don't really know other players very well, and are not exactly gifted with the talent of rhetorics. In those cases, the basic EDH rules are all you can fall back to. Try argueing with a douche who hides behind the excuse "The rules committee didn't ban the card, it must be fine to play it then. So quit whining". I'm lucky to belong to a group where there is quite a bit of room for criticizing eachothers deckbuilding and play style, so the game stays fun for every one.

Arguements in posts above are true: ban card A, and the douche players are gonna make your game just as miserable using card B, because the player is the problem, not the card. That's just an inherent problem of this format I'm afraid. In Standard, or even modern, the card pool is much more limited, and banlist updates are frequent to keep those formats healthy, but that's not possible in EDH.

We tried something to regulate overpowered, unfun decks a while back, and it was an eye opening experience: after game 1, everybody puts their deck in the middle of the table, and the guy who died first gets first pick for game two, second dead guy gets second pick, and so on. Fighting your own deck, with a bit of added spite, shows you exactly what people dislike about your decks :-)


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