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 Post subject: Re: We need to talk about Godo and/or Helm of the Host
AgePosted: 2018-May-13 7:27 am 
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Hate to be mean about this, but the more I've thought about it- the harder I've busted a gut about thinking about it playing out well. If you're playing Godo in the CZ- you're restricted to mono R (the color that has the hardest time protecting it's things-) and you need to generate 11 mana with your General before doing it to be even remotely threatening.

On a rate of "things that work sometimes"- this is heads on heels worse than any Norin or Feldon setup I've seen in play, and requires you to not develop Godo in a Godo deck until you have 11 mana and can simply take the leap of faith (which often means that this isn't a 1 card combo- you're pouring rocks and rituals into it as well) all to get absolutely blown out by every single 1-2 mana artifact and/or creature removal in the game- in the multiplayer format which is pretty well known for pretty loaded up on vintage level artifact and creature hate... and worse, it's blown out by in the format best known for modal fog being good because of Kiki Conscripts tricks, and mass buffs like being a known element.

Atleast worrying about was based off a concern with fastrocks allowing the deck to explode at a reasonable pace- and as far as Godo in any other build coming out and ending a game like this for 11 mana, I'm still confused about why anyone would care. This is a + combo- it's novel in just how often it just won't happen because it's prone to getting blown out by literally everything all of the time.

Red has explosive synergy cards? Ya don't say- it's not like the color is themed around it or anything. :roll:


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In a like minded group this can be fun, but it gets old fast when everyone has to team up against one known threat before you can even play the game. Especially when one person just uses that time to take advantage of everyone else expending resources and then "wins out of nowhere".


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My rule for combo decks is always if you have to scoop to jester cap, then you've built a bad deck.

If people want to build linear combo decks with a single game plan so be it. It could be done before godo and it will be doable if you ban him. This is a classic example of talk it out or tech it out.

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