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 Post subject: Re: Different sleeve for commander when shuffled or not?
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The way it works now is perfectly acceptable and in line with the flavor of morph. Your commander gets manifested, you cast or your general with face down from your hand. Just like with any morphed creature your opponent has to guess based on the information they know. In this case, do I risk that this face down creature is his general and he deals the last 2 general damage needed to kill me? Or is this a that's going to redirect my removal spell and hose me?

As it stands now, before damage gets dealt, you reveal your general and they take the commander damage. It's in line with how facedown generals have worked traditionally for years, and there hasn't been any radical changes in WOTC rules that would warrant a change out of the blue now.


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Those are not rules. Those are quotes from RC members, and while I respect that they administer the format, if this point were being debated in an actual game, "This guy on this forum said so" is not a particularly clear answer, is it? Reminds me of the original "wishes don't work" debacle, which ultimately led to the addition of an explicit rule regarding wishes.

Those links address some related issues, but not the one at hand - whether a face-down commander IN PLAY should be identified as such. Since the card's "commanderness" isn't "turned off" by being face-down, that seems like knowledge that should be public, unlike most other properties of a card, which are explicitly nullified by the face-down status (color, card type, name, etc.), and it is certainly relevant when on the battlefield.

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