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 Post subject: Re: I think we need a new Rule for the new [WAR] Gods.
AgePosted: 2019-Apr-30 10:04 pm 
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I don't think this particular cycle was designed with "Good Monocolored General" in mind, in the same way that the Elder Dinosaur cycle is awkward in the command zone. These cycles are more likely given lore and proper names because of how the Titans effect the game. Since Dragons of Tarkir, we almost always get a Titan cycle (Regents), with a Legendary-Titan counterpart (Elder Dragons.)

As titans, all of these absolutely rock. They're awesome in commander because they callback to Kamigawa's titan cycles, which all have some interesting behaviors because of how the Legendary Rule, and "Legendary Matters" has completely changed.

Thus, similar to my favorite MBC Commander, Ink-Eyes, Servant of Oni- what you lose from not sending your commander back to the CZ is a calculated risk. Hypothetically, all of these should be fine- because any color identity in EDH wants to stress Impulse effects for card selection- which dramatically effects a player's ability to assemble burst drawpower in any color identity. Since they are mono-colored, they have to assemble differing forms of burst drawpower, and have enough solid Impulses to get around this clause. Building with Inkie's ninjitsu in mind requires baiting out removal, and choosing not to regenerate through wraths. EDH's cardpool is so deep that finding something similar to Phyrexian Reclamation or Gravepurge at a time where I have ludicrous amounts of mana open and just want to toss a token or manland at somebody who doesn't want to block something, since killing it would provide me with more CA.

These all have fairly powerful triggers on generous bodies- and clones don't do much (if anything) with them. This ability is entirely optional at every step (these bad boys get to go to the CZ, the grave OR 3rd from the top-) so it's literally all upside. This can only tuck your general if you give it absolute permission to do so- and these aren't as exciting individually as their Amonkhet counterparts imo in the command zone (except Illharg, the Raze-Boar- but everybody wanted a monoR Sneak Attack general.) Titans with the "Legendary downside' are an exciting thing for EDH in that they're Titan powered guys that don't necessary throw the game out of whack with a kicked Rite of Replication- and that's just plain easy to appreciate.

TL;DR: Your commander should probably be going to your Graveyard in the first place- and these don't force you to take advantage of their bonus trigger. Tucking them is based on permission on their owner's behalf.

Greet him, Sneak Attack Pig god. A glorious dawn for monoR EDH decks has revealed itself. But what pet name is the best call for Illharg? I'm thinking "Pyggie-Millions", because I got those cringey literature puns on lockdown.

If you can't tell, that was a Pygmalion joke. I'll crawl back under that rock now.

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 Post subject: Re: I think we need a new Rule for the new [WAR] Gods.
AgePosted: 2019-May-04 1:45 am 
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Lord of the Flies?
Peter Porker?
Pumba?
The Pig of Tin Street? (That's a stretch, though.)
Babe?

The deck could be called "The Baconalia","Boar'd to Death", "Ham-Fisted", or "War Pigs".

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 Post subject: Re: I think we need a new Rule for the new [WAR] Gods.
AgePosted: 2019-May-21 9:17 am 
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kirkusjones wrote:
Lord of the Flies?
Peter Porker?
Pumba?
The Pig of Tin Street? (That's a stretch, though.)
Babe?

The deck could be called "The Baconalia","Boar'd to Death", "Ham-Fisted", or "War Pigs".



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 Post subject: Re: I think we need a new Rule for the new [WAR] Gods.
AgePosted: 2019-May-21 10:18 am 
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Isabelle wrote:
Why do I love this so much?

Because it's awesome?

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 Post subject: Re: I think we need a new Rule for the new [WAR] Gods.
AgePosted: 2019-May-25 7:13 am 

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The dream is to use Gonti's ability when someone's God-Eternal commander is put into the library and then never cast the card.


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 Post subject: Re: I think we need a new Rule for the new [WAR] Gods.
AgePosted: 2019-May-26 8:52 am 

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Panphage wrote:
The dream is to use Gonti's ability when someone's God-Eternal commander is put into the library and then never cast the card.


Pretty sure if you do exile a Commander directly from someone's library you *have* to reveal that it's their Commander at which point they can choose to apply the replacement effect and Command Zone it.


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 Post subject: Re: I think we need a new Rule for the new [WAR] Gods.
AgePosted: 2019-May-26 2:34 pm 
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AnIzzetBro wrote:
Panphage wrote:
The dream is to use Gonti's ability when someone's God-Eternal commander is put into the library and then never cast the card.


Pretty sure if you do exile a Commander directly from someone's library you *have* to reveal that it's their Commander at which point they can choose to apply the replacement effect and Command Zone it.

Actually I'm pretty sure that rule got scrapped, as it's such a corner case, especially with the revision to the commander replacement effect to include the library.

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 Post subject: Re: I think we need a new Rule for the new [WAR] Gods.
AgePosted: 2019-May-27 12:51 am 

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http://mtgcommander.net/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=18295

As it says here, it is possible to exile someone's commander from their library face down in the current rules of the game. At that point, the Gonti player could just hold their Kefnet or whatever in purgatory because he isn't obligated to even tell them what card was exiled.


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AgePosted: 2019-May-28 8:51 am 
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Panphage wrote:
http://mtgcommander.net/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=18295

As it says here, it is possible to exile someone's commander from their library face down in the current rules of the game. At that point, the Gonti player could just hold their Kefnet or whatever in purgatory because he isn't obligated to even tell them what card was exiled.

Look at that! A new account that can operate a search function! You get Sid's Seal of Approval.

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 Post subject: Re: I think we need a new Rule for the new [WAR] Gods.
AgePosted: 2019-May-28 11:56 am 
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Look at that! A new account that can operate a search function! You get Sid's Seal of Approval.

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AgePosted: 2019-May-28 12:08 pm 

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Thanks, guys. I'm new here but I have been on forums since the early 2000s and I started playing Magic during Mirage. I look forward to being part of the site.


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