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 Post subject: Vilis, Broker Of Blood
AgePosted: 2019-Jun-20 11:00 am 

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http://www.magicspoiler.com/mtg-spoiler/vilis-broker-of-blood/

Recent Core Set 2020 spoiler. This card is trying to be Griselbrand without quite getting there. It requires an enabler, but could be used to do some pretty broken stuff out of the command zone. Life for cards is always a delicate balance in EDH. Whaddaya think?


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 Post subject: Re: Vilis, Broker Of Blood
AgePosted: 2019-Jun-20 11:29 am 
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Yeah, that's... definitely groan-worthy. If the static ability were tied to the activated ability, it would be fine. The fact that you can do it with ANY life loss is a bit more problematic. Necropotence lets you draw cards NOW, for example.

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 Post subject: Re: Vilis, Broker Of Blood
AgePosted: 2019-Jun-20 12:00 pm 
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Note that it's not a may ability, so he's pretty much an automatic game loss against Underworld Dreams and any card that looks remotely like it.

My opinion of him is pretty similar to my opinion of Razaketh. He can get stupid with the right shenanigans on-board, but does require quite a bit more investment so that he's not just "entomb, play him, draw my deck, win". The fact that his ability requires mana (and a specific color of mana at that) is a small but relevant cost, much like Razaketh's sacrificing. He also, unlike Grissy, has no way to replenish the life on his own.

Is he going to be strong? Hell yes. Is he going to be banworthy? I'm not as sure of my answer as I've been for the last bunch of "omg ban this now" cards, but I'm still going to go with a solid no.

On a side note, I'm really excited for him for Standard play of all things. Any chance I get to play a reanimator deck in Standard I'll jump at, and he seems like the perfect top end for a reanimator deck.

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 Post subject: Re: Vilis, Broker Of Blood
AgePosted: 2019-Jun-20 12:58 pm 

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I see a few good pieces for a standard reanimation deck, but not the reanimate itself.

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 Post subject: Re: Vilis, Broker Of Blood
AgePosted: 2019-Jun-22 1:53 am 

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Strong? Yes. Ban worthy? No.


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 Post subject: Re: Vilis, Broker Of Blood
AgePosted: 2019-Jun-23 3:46 am 

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Does that fact that I want to run him in Nekusar so I can donate him to someone make me a bad person?


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 Post subject: Re: Vilis, Broker Of Blood
AgePosted: 2019-Jun-23 4:17 am 

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majikal wrote:
Does that fact that I want to run him in Nekusar so I can donate him to someone make me a bad person?


Probably. Welcome to the club!

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 Post subject: Re: Vilis, Broker Of Blood
AgePosted: 2019-Jun-23 4:53 am 
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Very excited for the opportunity to play mono-black suicide in EDH. Currently cooking up a trashy list.

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 Post subject: Re: Vilis, Broker Of Blood
AgePosted: 2019-Jun-23 11:07 am 
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kirkusjones wrote:
Currently cooking up a trashy list.

Which will probably still win out of nowhere given how stupidly powerful that ability is.

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 Post subject: Re: Vilis, Broker Of Blood
AgePosted: 2019-Jun-23 4:05 pm 
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You'll just have to wait and see, Sid ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Vilis, Broker Of Blood
AgePosted: 2019-Jul-10 4:25 am 

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I have been play testing him extensively in a couple lists on tapped out and by all means he is broken. Especially in multi colored decks. I built a Kess reanimator deck that can usually get him out turn three or four and what I do is use pain lands, talismans, and shock lands as mana fixing as well as card draw. He is extremely powerful. I wouldn't say ban worthy because I don't like to see any card banned but overall he is comparable to griselbrand and in some cases quite a bit better. Griselbrand has an activated ability that gives you a set number of cards that in combo decks can lead to fast wins but Vilis makes playing a midrange game better because your life loss cards count as cantrips. Very good and I would recommend him as your primary reanimation target. Unless you want have a sacrifice outlet, then reanimate hulk. Or you are playing the deck called Razakrats.


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