Rasalom wrote:
But then if I had
Minion Reflector in play due to the surge, I would have to activate that ability (pay 2 mana for each creature I want to copy) to put the ETB effect of the creature on the stack after the Surge resolves (I am done putting stuff onto the battlefield) but before I am stacking triggers, or would I have to pay to add to the stack when I wanted the trigger to go on the stack?
Plus, would I only be able to create a token copy of creatures that entered the battlefield after the reflector due to the same reason that I can only clone creatures that entered the battlefield before the clone did. (the clone hits and only sees the stuff that's already in play, and the reflector can't see the stuff that already entered)
Minion Reflector generates its trigger every time it "sees" a nontoken creature enter the battlefield under your control, so it will trigger for everything that Surge puts in after it. When surge is done, those will go on the stack. For each one, you decide whether you want to pay {2} as the trigger resolves. So with the earlier Purphoros, Hermit Druid, Chancellor of the Forge example, let's throw a Minion Reflector and a
Merfolk of the Pearl Trident in the mix.
PS hits Purphoros
PS hits Merfolk of the Pearl Trident
PS hits Minion Reflector
PS hits Chancellor of the Forge (p, mr, and chancellor all trigger)
PS hits Hermit Druid (purphoros, druid, and minion reflector all trigger)
Thus endeth the Surging, you stack your triggers (bottom to top, purphx3, chancellor, reflector of chancellor, reflector of druid, druid)
The stack starts resolving:
+4 squirrels, purphoros triggers 4 times
your opponents eat eight
you may pay {2}, if you do the token druid will trigger (as will purphoros)
two to their domes
+4 squirrels (assuming you paid), purphoros triggers 4 times
2+2+2+2=8 once more
you may pay {2}, if you do the token chancellor triggers (and your opponents will be super bummed about Purphoros at this point)
2 more damage
+15 goblins (2 druids, 10 squirrels, 2 chancellor), and a bundle more purphoros triggers
30 more damage in packets of 2
+30 goblins & purphoros triggers
60 more...is anybody out there?
and then 3 triggers from the original Chancellor and Druid and the Merfolk. I bet you forgot about those.