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AgePosted: 2018-Nov-21 2:39 am 

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Hi, I have been playing a control deck for a while with good results.

I tried several wincons such as and , both are great finishers but my playgroup dislike those so I toke them out of my deck.

My playgroup also dislikes infinite turns, etc.

Now my deck has some narrows wincons

1. + : because I have not tutors other than I cant rely on this combo (by the way I never won with this)
2. to the face (I have won a couple of games with this one without the help of wich I have but have not drew in any of my games)
3. : I have never ever won with this either, was fun to play but wont last
4. : never ever had more than 6 soldiers in the table before she died
5. My last and favourite wincon is having 50 cards in hand with and and deleting one at a time (happen once)

All those wincons needs a lot of time, after I tok away test of endurance and Felidar sovereign I won more than 50% of the time but always at turn 15+ (20 or even more) because my wincons needs so much mana or so much life total or just so much time.

I always miss those two cards (felidar and the test) when is turn 15+ people are tired and I am against the last opponent knowing I am going to win because I have a soft lock but it will take some turns.

So I wonder (and this is the topic of the thread) is worth playing to end the game fast enought without being perceived as "unfair" like those two other insta-win cards?

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AgePosted: 2018-Nov-21 8:05 am 

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Maybe? There’s actually less chance to interact with Approach than Test and Wincat, as it’s not a permanent. On the other hand you have several turns to see it coming. Personally, I can’t get Test or Wincat to stick these days. Don’t forget Test’s kindler, gentler cousin,


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is a good win-condition for you. and make it come back quickly. If you're looking to have fun, try playing it without extra draw because it paints a huge target on you while providing a long clock.

I'm sure you and your friends will find a game of archenemy fun. :wink:


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AgePosted: 2019-Jan-25 11:31 pm 

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Well, I tried it out and it worked just fine

I played in a 5 man table last night and one of the games I won was because

Nobody (except for one player) considered it unfair or boring, it was not easy to do, I demanded patiente and taking risks

In the magical Christmas scenario you would need 16 mana and 2 cards to win a single turn so it doesn't seem unfair at all

Conclusion: is kind of clunky but it works, and except for the player who always complaint about any winning that does not include combat there were no bad feelings about the game.



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