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 Post subject: Confusion around the ban list.
AgePosted: 2019-Feb-19 11:53 pm 

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Hi Folks,

Apologies if this was asked before, but I found nothing on a quick glance.

I have been having some confusion over the banlist as I have seen a few posts be it here, or on reddit, stating things are banned and to be fair, the list WotC shows has several cards marked as "Banned" including cards like: Tinker & Upheaval.

However when I look at the banlist here on mtgcommander there is an "**Unbanned**" portion in which we have a set of cards listed beneath.

Can anyone clarify to me what is or isn't considered banned?
I know protean hulk got unbanned but he isnt under the "**Unbanned**" header and instead has a strike through its name.

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 Post subject: Re: Confusion around the ban list.
AgePosted: 2019-Feb-20 10:40 am 

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That list is accurate, but for whatever reason they opted to do a strike through rather than just remove it altogether. Perhaps it was done right after the update when hulk was unbanned and they wanted the visual "yep this used to be banned but now it's not" effect. Either way, Hulk can get removed from that list.


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AgePosted: 2019-Feb-20 11:21 am 

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It isn't the header to an "Unbanned" section, its a note saying the Protean Hulk is unbanned. No other cards on the list are unbanned.

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 Post subject: Re: Confusion around the ban list.
AgePosted: 2019-Feb-20 8:09 pm 

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Thanks Folks for clarifying, much appreciated!


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 Post subject: Re: Confusion around the ban list.
AgePosted: 2019-Feb-21 6:48 am 

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At a technical level, the text "unbanned" is not inside the li (list item) HTML tag along with Protean Hulk itself, so it gets drawn on another line.

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 Post subject: Re: Confusion around the ban list.
AgePosted: 2019-Feb-21 7:37 am 
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Oof, the way that's written it does look like it might be a heading for a list of unbanned cards, doesn't it?

That probably needs to get removed...

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AgePosted: 2019-Feb-21 7:45 am 
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Yeah, I never thought of it that way (probably because I saw it before, and after the unbanning of Hulk) ... but now that it's pointed out -- it certainly does look like a separate section of unbanned cards.


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AgePosted: 2019-Feb-21 7:49 am 
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Recurring Nightmare's been unbanned finally, you heard it here first folks.
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AgePosted: 2019-Feb-24 3:21 am 
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spacemonaut wrote:
Oof, the way that's written it does look like it might be a heading for a list of unbanned cards, doesn't it?

That probably needs to get removed...

Very much so.

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 Post subject: Re: Confusion around the ban list.
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spacemonaut wrote:
Recurring Nightmare's been unbanned finally, you heard it here first folks.
:twisted:


Probably still too crazy for a format with Entomb. But if they banned Entomb and Life From the Loam or stuff, it might be ok.
It's actually super ok in the 1 v 1 format, where ramp is not as degenerate b/c no mana rocks and Zo-Zu/Rampaging Ferocidon are real things, haha!

Yes, Hulk is unbanned nad I have not seen it around at all. It might be too slow? :(

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 Post subject: Re: Confusion around the ban list.
AgePosted: 2019-Mar-13 10:23 pm 

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CrazyPierre wrote:
spacemonaut wrote:
Recurring Nightmare's been unbanned finally, you heard it here first folks.
:twisted:


Probably still too crazy for a format with Entomb. But if they banned Entomb and Life From the Loam or stuff, it might be ok.
It's actually super ok in the 1 v 1 format, where ramp is not as degenerate b/c no mana rocks and Zo-Zu/Rampaging Ferocidon are real things, haha!

Yes, Hulk is unbanned nad I have not seen it around at all. It might be too slow? :(

I think it would be like Prophet: a very big nuisance for lower power tables, but a nonissue at higher tier play when the decks are already more equipped to deal with it.


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cryogen wrote:
CrazyPierre wrote:
spacemonaut wrote:
Recurring Nightmare's been unbanned finally, you heard it here first folks.
:twisted:


Probably still too crazy for a format with Entomb. But if they banned Entomb and Life From the Loam or stuff, it might be ok.
It's actually super ok in the 1 v 1 format, where ramp is not as degenerate b/c no mana rocks and Zo-Zu/Rampaging Ferocidon are real things, haha!

Yes, Hulk is unbanned nad I have not seen it around at all. It might be too slow? :(

I think it would be like Prophet: a very big nuisance for lower power tables, but a nonissue at higher tier play when the decks are already more equipped to deal with it.


They print graveyard hate in every set these days, I think it would just push people to run 1-3 pieces like they should be anyways...

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 Post subject: Re: Confusion around the ban list.
AgePosted: 2019-Mar-14 4:51 pm 

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CrazyPierre wrote:
Yes, Hulk is unbanned nad I have not seen it around at all. It might be too slow? :(

No this card is nutso because of Flash.


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Inkeyes22 wrote:
They print graveyard hate in every set these days, I think it would just push people to run 1-3 pieces like they should be anyways...
If current GY strats have not, why would one more?

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