>>>Oh great someone who has gotten their jammies rustled over another persons opinion about cardboard. Allow me step by step dismantle the serious flaws in your straw man of me. I want you to know I don’t take this personally and neither should you.
alexev wrote:
“The RC has done a great job all these years making EDH/Comander the incredible game it is now and part of their suscess is because after they make the greates format ever they had def ears for whinning”
>> Yet you didn’t read the part of how our group determines what cards we feel are fun or playable and how our bans have been close to if not exactly the same as the RC. We were thinking about prophet of kurpix getting banned, but only help off because that would require seedborn muse getting banned and that seemed fairly hypocritical at the time. The cards do nearly the same thing one just needs winding canyons to have flash for creatures. Also you mistake whining for critical questions and concerns about the format and how WotC is developing cards for commander specifically. Even Sheldon had an issue with Derevi because it didn’t have a commander tax and was cheating the format. Rising concerns and testing different methods of play shouldn’t be considered ‘whining’.
alexev wrote:
“I am glad that the RC have def ears to players complaining, because now you complain and ban sol ring, and then what?mana crypt? other players whine about expropriateother people complains against extra turns, other people wants MLD banned, other people wants any countermagic banned, other people sugests banning every infinite combo, some people says infect should be 20, some people serra ascendant should be banned and a long etcetera.”
>>> the only card I want the RC to actual ban is paradox engine because that card turns fun decks into cEDH decks and has no function for casual play. It generally leads into easy infinite spells, drawl, and mana. Which is hard to answer, save for Krosan grip, and is generally unfun/toxic. This last sentence is the only time I mentioned what RC should or shouldn’t ban and in all the post I’ve made I never mentioned what should be banned. When it comes to the question of NDM and reoccuring nightmare in comparing the two because I want reoccuring nightmare unbanned. When I mention sol ring I’m describing what works best for our group and what has been successful for our games. Never have I mentioned banning something or something that outta be banned for RC. You’ve gone over the deep end with this straw man that I want to ban things and complain about the format...
alexev wrote:
“If the RC bans every single card a players has cryed for then this format would be awfull. You have banned sol ring in you playgroup, is ok, works for you, but what I feel ofensive is people trying to "force" those bans to other people, because If I am ever going to play in a table and they say "no counterspell allowed because we house rule that" is ok, I will just find another table, but if the RC says "no counterspell allowed" then is an enforced rule for all.”
>>>>Yea I don’t want the RC determining anything more then what edh generally is and how to keep the format alive and health for as long as possible. The way we “force our ban of no infinite’s” is by allowing people to use their infinite’s and watch the game play out anyways. If that’s something you don’t like well I don’t think you understand the social contract of the game when you sit down to play with strangers. We also ask people to cycle sol ring for free so as to no have them replace a card. Some underpowered with sol ring usually gives them the power to compete with our decks so when that’s the case we encourage it’s use. Your example of “no counter spells allowed” shows a lack of experience in the game. Counterspells ate the worst and most versatile form of removal in the game. Most counter only stop one player from playing one spell on that players turn. Therefore you have to hold up mana and have great threat determination to execute a counterspell well. Even when it’s done the amount of abilities and work around for counters in the game is staggering. Since you only deal with one of your 3 other oppoents you’ve timewalked yourself and one player to allow the other two players a way to proceed in the game. The best counterspells usually cost 4 or more mana and then you really feel behind when you know to counter a spell in another players hand and both of you play chicken until as the game proceeds around you. It deals with everything, but works best in single player formats. Otherwise known as the worst removal for 4+ person games.
alexev wrote:
“So, if you dont want some cards and you playgroup agree with you, well for your house bans, just dont try to enforce that in to other people.”
>>>Who said I enforced anything except the social contract and before this post I’ve only mentioned what my particular playergroup has chooses to ban or unban based on group agreement. I don’t understand why you feel the need to virtue signal and white knight for the RC. I don’t like how slow they are with things that were obviously breaking the game like primeval titan back in the day. I mentioned how my group banned it a year before they did. This is meant to show how my group and the RC have the same taste in mind yet we determined a year in advance to ban a card that was ruined our games at our table. Pointing out how slow the RC can and coming to the same conclusion shows our group being of similar mindset, but able to take advantage of not listening to the complaints of people who worship the RC.
alexev wrote:
“you have been playing for over a decade and you have only one EDH Deck? a lot of your complaints suggest a very narrow view of the format”
>>>> More baseless assumptions and obviously you have trouble following the conversation so I’ll clear it up for you. I’ve mentioned two decks I’ve built and kept over the years. If you think I have one you obviously want to warp the conversation into what ever strawman suits your needs. I've built many decks and tear them apart when I don't think they perform. I don't like toting around a deck I don't like using and I usually trade cards I don't intend on using because I hate cardboard sitting in my binder. That's just the sorta player I am.
I’ve built 9 list and kept 2 because they’ve been reliable and fun. I’ve changed those two list so much from their original formatting that they can’t even be considered the same list. I’m working on a third list and it will be the 4th time I’ve tired to make boros work. No I’m not playing feather.
A lot of your issues can be handled by actually reading the conversation at hand instead of trying to design a strawman. I’ve never mentioned what the RC needs to ban, never forced people to play different from my group “I’ve asked them to cycle sol ring when deck is comparable, but never mentioned that in the forum”, and I’ve mentioned more then one deck I’ve built in the post which you didn’t seem to fully read. Idk why you think that would give me narrow view of the format, but I assume it’s to wrap up a tidy knot with the this straw man of me having a “narrow view” even if I might have more years then you. Which As I concluded before comes from the silly example you gave of banning counterspells and how you can’t see the other post of me playing with cEDH players..
Try to read the all of my responses or even ask what I’ve played or built next time it can only help address the serious lack of information your argument has.