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 Post subject: MTGSalvation Shutting Down for Good
AgePosted: 2019-May-28 10:31 am 

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https://www.mtgsalvation.com/articles/4 ... -of-an-era

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It was almost fifteen years ago that Kelzam and a few friends first launched a small forum in a random corner of the web named MTG Salvation. It was nondescript and started only with an idea. But in early 2005, that idea caught fire and spread, leading to a massive influx of users, and MTG Salvation has never looked back.

In the past decade and a half, we have come a long way and grown exponentially - both in size and in concept. We have expanded well past being a forum, and even walked away from our days of spoiler leaks. We've gone from Wizard's black sheep that shouldn't be mentioned to even being celebrated with our own preview card.

I have been here to see all of it, having joined the site and staff only shortly after inception. In the past decade and a half, I have been constantly inspired by the dedication and effort the staff and members have put into this community. For every late night I've ever put to the grindstone, there's been a hundred others doing the same, motivating me to do more. I can never express the level of gratitude I have for all of you out there who have made this site and community what it is.

It is therefore with the heaviest of hearts that I announce the following:

MTG Salvation will be closing on July 8th, 2019.

Because of the rich history and great many resources our community has created over the years, the site will not be taken completely offline. Instead, it will be archived and enter a "read only" mode, where all of our past content can continue to be read and linked to. Threads, articles, decks, and posts will continue to all be available, but nothing new will be able to be posted or created.

The answer to the inevitable question of why is complex, but deserves a response. Our owners have expanded on to other projects, launching such epic endeavors as D&D Beyond. As these have taken off, the development team has shifted focus and simply does not have the time and resources for us that we require. They can simply no longer justify the development, infrastructure, and maintenance costs of the site compared to their other projects.

I don't want to leave anyone hanging.
So thank you to everyone who has made this place what it is.

I want to take this time to thank all of the wonderful people who have made MTG Salvation what it is. There are far too many to name, and trying would probably make this a twelve article series. From a dedicated staff who has volunteered unimaginable amounts of time and energy guiding the community, to primer writers and content creators who create only for the love of sharing. From writers and editors who have volunteered their word prowess to rules gurus who've answered a thousand questions. It is undeniable that we are filled with an innumerable number of people who have given much to this community and site. Even after fifteen years, there's a great many of you that I've never had the chance to personally interact with, but there stands a good chance that I've read your posts and been inspired by your ideas.

For those of you who wish to continue on with our community here, the staff and I have begun building a new home. We'll announce and discuss the prospect when it is more concrete and closer to completion.

Please rest assured that the staff will be here to the end. We still have another preview season to go through, and we wouldn't miss it for the world.

Guess I shouldn't be surprised considering how message board forums are slowly going extinct due to social media sites like Reddit where they seem to have a more active community even though it isn't as organized. There was one message board forum I used to be active on years ago that converted itself completely to Facebook and I haven't really heard from them since.

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 Post subject: Re: MTGSalvation Shutting Down for Good
AgePosted: 2019-May-28 11:02 am 
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Wow, that's a bit of a shock. Admittedly I don't go there very much any more, but that was only because the content they were putting out was MASSIVE and I couldn't keep up with it.

End of an era, indeed.

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 Post subject: Re: MTGSalvation Shutting Down for Good
AgePosted: 2019-May-28 11:41 am 

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For clarification, our closure has nothing to do with "forums dying" and everything to do with Curse not wanting to devote the money or resources into us and other forums in acquired.

The staff is currently working to create a new community site, so we hope that you will join us there once it is up and running. I'll make an announcement here once we get closer to release.


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 Post subject: Re: MTGSalvation Shutting Down for Good
AgePosted: 2019-May-28 12:06 pm 

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I'm assuming it will be non-MTG related so If you want to post about MTG then your only choices are other message board forums and social media platforms like Reddit, Discord, and Facebook. There's also sites like TappedOut and Archidekt where you can post deck lists and get feedback for them as well.

I don't know why but it almost feels as though the end of MTGSalvation is like a current representation of the Magic community as a whole with all the drama that's been taking place over the past few years. The reality is that times are changing whether we like it or not. You either swim against the tide, fully embrace it, or move on in life.

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 Post subject: Re: MTGSalvation Shutting Down for Good
AgePosted: 2019-May-28 3:08 pm 
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cryogen wrote:
For clarification, our closure has nothing to do with "forums dying" and everything to do with Curse not wanting to devote the money or resources into us and other forums in acquired.

The staff is currently working to create a new community site, so we hope that you will join us there once it is up and running. I'll make an announcement here once we get closer to release.



I think it’s a little of both. Forums are dying, so Curse decided to write off all of its forums. If the forums had been more viable, Curse wouldn’t have smothered them.

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 Post subject: Re: MTGSalvation Shutting Down for Good
AgePosted: 2019-May-28 3:15 pm 

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Good riddance to a toxic forum


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 Post subject: Re: MTGSalvation Shutting Down for Good
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Let's be honest... MTGSalvation hasn't been all that great for a long time now. The site was archaic (almost as outdated as this one) and the user base has dropped off a lot. Sure it's kinda sad, and it was nice to have it as a resource but.... c'mon it's 2019 and it was a forum stuck 15 years in the past.


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 Post subject: Re: MTGSalvation Shutting Down for Good
AgePosted: 2019-May-29 4:15 am 

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sicklyjewel wrote:
Let's be honest... MTGSalvation hasn't been all that great for a long time now. The site was archaic (almost as outdated as this one) and the user base has dropped off a lot. Sure it's kinda sad, and it was nice to have it as a resource but.... c'mon it's 2019 and it was a forum stuck 15 years in the past.

I would love to hear any constructive feedback you may have. The days of us being toxic are long behind us (compared to forums like Reddit or even here, and social media sites like Facebook and discord). Our user base is quite robust and there has been an overwhelming amount of support with the exception of a very small minority.


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 Post subject: Re: MTGSalvation Shutting Down for Good
AgePosted: 2019-May-29 4:52 am 

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cryogen wrote:
For clarification, our closure has nothing to do with "forums dying" and everything to do with Curse not wanting to devote the money or resources into us and other forums in acquired.

The staff is currently working to create a new community site, so we hope that you will join us there once it is up and running. I'll make an announcement here once we get closer to release.


These are a very sad news, I am a member with more than 11 yrs in the forum, it was "the last old school forum standing".

The "new comunity site" you are working at, what is it? is like tappedout? is another forum? is like reddit?, gives some clues if you can.

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 Post subject: Re: MTGSalvation Shutting Down for Good
AgePosted: 2019-May-29 8:10 am 

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alexev wrote:
cryogen wrote:
For clarification, our closure has nothing to do with "forums dying" and everything to do with Curse not wanting to devote the money or resources into us and other forums in acquired.

The staff is currently working to create a new community site, so we hope that you will join us there once it is up and running. I'll make an announcement here once we get closer to release.


These are a very sad news, I am a member with more than 11 yrs in the forum, it was "the last old school forum standing".

The "new comunity site" you are working at, what is it? is like tappedout? is another forum? is like reddit?, gives some clues if you can.

Yes.

Sadly, one of the things I learned the hard way is to not speak publicly before things were concrete. We are still in the setup phase so as we get nearer to going live more will be revealed. But I loved Sally and the Commander area still feels like home for me.


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 Post subject: Re: MTGSalvation Shutting Down for Good
AgePosted: 2019-May-29 8:21 am 

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Card Slinger J wrote:
I'm assuming it will be non-MTG related so


Well that's a baseless assumption since everything I've been reading over at sal,has indicated that folks will be coping primers and other key threads to the new site once it's up and running. I plan just to start a new looking for group thread myself since the old one is outdated.

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 Post subject: Re: MTGSalvation Shutting Down for Good
AgePosted: 2019-May-29 10:47 am 
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cryogen wrote:
Sadly, one of the things I learned the hard way is to not speak publicly before things were concrete. We are still in the setup phase so as we get nearer to going live more will be revealed. But I loved Sally and the Commander area still feels like home for me.


What are the odds of recruiting the Sally EDH regulars to hang out here instead?

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Kemev wrote:
cryogen wrote:
Sadly, one of the things I learned the hard way is to not speak publicly before things were concrete. We are still in the setup phase so as we get nearer to going live more will be revealed. But I loved Sally and the Commander area still feels like home for me.


What are the odds of recruiting the Sally EDH regulars to hang out here instead?

Slim, truthfully. Even among the regulars there most users are there for more than just Commander. And quite bluntly, the forum is better for the reasons posted in another thread. I know there is some overlap among users, but I don't know that we can recruit many.

I'm certainly not opposed to the idea though.


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cryogen wrote:
Kemev wrote:
cryogen wrote:
Sadly, one of the things I learned the hard way is to not speak publicly before things were concrete. We are still in the setup phase so as we get nearer to going live more will be revealed. But I loved Sally and the Commander area still feels like home for me.


What are the odds of recruiting the Sally EDH regulars to hang out here instead?

Slim, truthfully. Even among the regulars there most users are there for more than just Commander. And quite bluntly, the forum is better for the reasons posted in another thread. I know there is some overlap among users, but I don't know that we can recruit many.

I'm certainly not opposed to the idea though.


The other thread was actually what I was thinking of.

What are the odds if two communities need a new forum, they collaborate on one?

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