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 Post subject: Conversation starter: Best deck for my Body Double
AgePosted: 2019-Aug-19 10:03 am 
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(Note I'm looking for advice on which of my decks to put Body Double into; while discussion in general terms is welcomed, I'm not making another deck/deck type to slot this guy into)

So, I've recently picked up a Body Double, and I don't know which deck to put it in. These are my blue decks:

U: Ixidor Morphs
Azorius/WU: Isperia Fliers
Dimir/UB: Ramses Assassins/Auras
Izzet/UR: Nin draw cards
Simic/UG: Edric, Spies and Rogues
Esper/WUB: Aminatou Blinks
Grixis/UBR: Inalla Wizards/Spells
Bant/GWU: Rafiq Voltron
Jeskai/WUR: Zedruu donations
Sultai/UBG: Damia Gorgons
Temur/URG: Animar goodstuff
Non-W: Yidris Storm
Non-B: Kynaois and Tiro Landfall
Non-R: Isshai and Reyhan +1/+1 counters
Non-G: Akiri and Silas Artifacts (Equipments)

There are a few where this just doesn't fit, and so I can eliminate them straight away. Morphs, Fliers, Rafiq, Zedruu, Gorgons, Storm, and Equipment seem out straight out of the gate as the addition of Body Double really wouldn't add anything to the deck.

Likewise there are a few decks where I think it would be good, and/or add to the deck theme:
Ramses - there's going to be a lot of creatures in graveyards
Edric - it's a Superspy! (A bit of a stretch but the shapeshifting/Ethan Hunt facemask wearing spy is definitely a thing)
Aminatou Blinks - being able to change what it is at instant speed seems pretty handy
Animar - just being able to cast this for one mana and getting something tasty is good (but to me this is a pretty bland reason to include a card in a deck - but on the other other hand, Animar is my least flavourful deck and is the kind of deck that is just looking for value plays like this)

The rest (Nin, Inalla, K&T, and Isshai & Reyhan) are just on the "meh" side.

So, given the above ramble - for which I apologise - which deck would you slot a Body Double into?

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 Post subject: Re: Conversation starter: Best deck for my Body Double
AgePosted: 2019-Aug-19 11:50 am 
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Viperion wrote:
(Note I'm looking for advice on which of my decks to put Body Double into; while discussion in general terms is welcomed, I'm not making another deck/deck type to slot this guy into)

So, I've recently picked up a Body Double, and I don't know which deck to put it in. These are my blue decks:

U: Ixidor, Morphs
Azorius/WU: Isperia Fliers
Dimir/UB: Ramses Assassins/Auras
Izzet/UR: Nin, draw cards
Simic/UG: Edric, Spies and Rogues
Esper/WUB: Aminatou, Blinks
Grixis/UBR: Inalla Wizards/Spells
Bant/GWU: Rafiq Voltron
Jeskai/WUR: Zedruu donations
Sultai/UBG: Damia Gorgons
Temur/URG: Animar goodstuff
Non-W: Yidris Storm
Non-B: Kynaios and Tiro Landfall
Non-R: Ishai and Reyhan +1/+1 counters
Non-G: Akiri and Silas Artifacts (Equipment)

There are a few where this just doesn't fit, and so I can eliminate them straight away. Morphs, Fliers, Rafiq, Zedruu, Gorgons, Storm, and Equipment seem out straight out of the gate as the addition of Body Double really wouldn't add anything to the deck.

Likewise there are a few decks where I think it would be good, and/or add to the deck theme:
Ramses - there's going to be a lot of creatures in graveyards
Edric - it's a Superspy! (A bit of a stretch but the shapeshifting/Ethan Hunt facemask wearing spy is definitely a thing)
Aminatou Blinks - being able to change what it is at instant speed seems pretty handy
Animar - just being able to cast this for one mana and getting something tasty is good (but to me this is a pretty bland reason to include a card in a deck - but on the other other hand, Animar is my least flavourful deck and is the kind of deck that is just looking for value plays like this)

The rest (Nin, Inalla, K&T, and Isshai & Reyhan) are just on the "meh" side.

So, given the above ramble - for which I apologise - which deck would you slot a Body Double into?


You've already stated the obvious first choice... Ramses Assassins. However, if your Rafiq deck is using an exalted subtheme, I would not discount that option. Having a backup (in the form of copying a dead evasion and swinging for large amounts of exalted/equipment) when Rafiq is not on the table shouldn't be overlooked.

Aminatou, and Edric are likely strong choices as well. It really depends on how close to tribal themes you play decks (e.g. I wouldn't put it in my Edric deck because Body Double is a shapeshifter without changeling, not a Rogue - but my build is all rogue tribal). Ditto Ramses.

So, my personal order would be Rafiq, Aminatou, Ramses, Edric, other.

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 Post subject: Re: Conversation starter: Best deck for my Body Double
AgePosted: 2019-Aug-19 2:13 pm 
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Rafiq has exalted cards in it, but they're purely there to pump Rafiq to 11 first and to do other things later (off the top of my head the Exalted cards in there are Frontline Sage, Angelic Benediction, Battlegrace Angel, Finest Hour, and Qasali Pridemage) but the deck is pretty much only about getting Rafiq to 11 (or 6 with Finest Hour) and swinging through. Body Doubling a Battlegrace Angel would be about as good as it would get (unless there's a something particularly spicy in an opponent's graveyard, but if the game has got to that stage I've probably already lost)

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 Post subject: Re: Conversation starter: Best deck for my Body Double
AgePosted: 2019-Aug-20 1:39 pm 
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Do you have any decks that fill up opponents' graveyards? Like maybe Grixis wizards -- got any wheels/windfalls?

Body Double's great as a pseudo-Zombify, but it really shines when you can start stealing other players' stuff with it.

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 Post subject: Re: Conversation starter: Best deck for my Body Double
AgePosted: 2019-Aug-20 3:43 pm 
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Ramses (of my blue decks) would be the best candidate for that - My Mono-B, B/W, and B/G decks all kill the opponents creatures all the time, but not so much any of my Blue decks :)

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